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Originally Posted by JuMPy
as mentioned the law encompasses much more then speeding, which is where th problem lies. Loosely translated, you can have you car taken away for things as simple as the following:
1) Tailgating
2) Tapping your brakes or slowing down on the hi-way when someone is behind you following to close
3) Turning in front of someone if you are turning left off a red, and other car in opposite direction is coming at you (what used to be a failing to yield)
4) Taking to long to pass on a country road.
5) Closing in on someone driving to slow
6) Spinning the tires
7) Speeding up in the left lane if someone is trying to pass you on the right
8)....cop can even take you car if you are on a bike and he thinks you tried to pull a wheely.
read the law, and come up with about another dozen or so bogus senarios that could come out of what it dictates. The also go through the HTA as it was before...there were charges for all of the things onthe list.
Much like most of the Ontario Sheep, you are ignorant to the new law. The speeding portion of it is the only part that actually makes any sense.
Next time read please...there are a lot of people working really hard to make sure you can drive the streets without fear of you loosing your ride because some cowboy cop thinks you should.
We are all car guys and we all have been profiled, followed, and or charged for nothing at one point inour lives .... this new law is a killer to our hobby. No one is trying to get rid of it, just eliminate the seizure and suspension portion.
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You sir, are an idiot.
As far as I see it, every single thing you listed are reasons this law should be in place. You shouldn't be tailgating, you shouldn't tap your brakes to get the asshole off your back, because he's the one that is making the situation dangerous, and you just made it so much worse by tapping the brakes.
You shouldn't be purposely spinning your tires, nor should you be trying to pass 8 cars at a time, and closing in on someone driving to slow sounds like your speeding to begin with, either that, or the person is driving really slow, in which case you should have slowed down way before you "close in".
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8)....cop can even take you car if you are on a bike and he thinks you tried to pull a wheely.
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Not sure how they can take your CAR when you are on a bike. If its a motorcycle your talking about, its a 2 wheel vehicle. Both wheels are necessary on the ground to operate it safely.. There is no reason pulling a wheelie should be legal in any way on the streets.
Now, while I don't disagree with you that this law is very vague, and some officers take advantage of the vagueness and use the law in ways it was not intended, I do not agree with you that this is a killer to our hobby, our hobby is NOT to drive like complete fucking morons, it is modifying, preserving and getting the most out of our vehicles. However, we do not do this to break street laws, we abide by them, and when we have the itch to do otherwise we go to the track.
Now as for someone "working really hard" for me to not have the fear of driving on the streets. hahaha. Actually I do the work, and its very easy to not drive like an idiot on the streets. I have had my BMW for 3 years now. I got pulled over once, and it was simply a roadside check, no tickets issued, no arguments, just a simple conversation.
Now, don't get me wrong, I have had my fair share of cop issues in terms of speeding, etc. However, now that I am slightly older, I look back at it and realize that 99% of everything I got ticketed for was my own fault, and the cop was just trying to do his job (some do it better then others, but you don't have to deal with a cop if you abide by the laws)
So in the long run, what I am trying to say is, Grow the fuck up, abide by the laws of the street, and you will not have to worry about getting your license suspended or your vehicle seized. As vague as this law is, I hate to say it, its mighty effective. I rarely see anyone on the 401 doing a routine 140km/h drive anymore. The fastest I see people going these days is 120-125. Its unfortunate that these measures were taken and the law was written so poorly, however the general population now scared to drive faster is not helping anyone against the law or the way it was written as its statistically effective.
Now if you ask me to sign a petition asking to go into more detail with the law so it is not as vague and not so much to the discretion of the officer, then I would be all for it. But do not go off to the general public spreading the stupidity that you wrote.