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they should make a srt-4 with a civic motor in it also :P

that is gonna be on quick civic i tell ya

I can not understand why anyone would want to waste so much time and money into putting garbage into garbage?

Honestly.. it makes no sense.

^^ That engine is hardly garbage, but I agree that this swap should never have been done.

garbage to garbage?.....hhmmm

Originally Posted by neonSRT

^^ That engine is hardly garbage, but I agree that this swap should never have been done.

How so?

I can't see it being justifiable to put in an engine that is intended for a fairly heavy FWD vehicle into a very light vehicle. Once you add up the total time spent on the project plus costs.. you would be better off swapping a buit B18 into the thing and produce high HP numbers with low torque.. exactly what these light hondas need.

If you showed me a S2000 swap into a 240 or a Supra Swap into a 240 or whatever outragous RWD combination you can think of and I would consider it an achievement.

Name the good a SRT4 motor has the second you have to pay to buy the swap? Potential? Has the same potential other built motors have... Factory Warranty? Thats the reason why people love these motors.. stage 2 and you still have factory warranty.. not on a swap..

Seriously, I would fine it embarrassing to own a vehicle that is not a chrysler that has a chrysler swap in it (Except an old school hemi).

Originally Posted by NikiterZts

garbage to garbage?.....hhmmm

Ya, garbage into garbage.. just like when you are throwing endless amounts of money into your garbage focus... in the long run, its still a $5000 focus.. that will never get past 15 seconds in the 1/4, and will never outhandle a civic...

Please.. by no means should you get offended by the vehicle you drive.. if your going to say that its "all that you can afford".. because if that were true.. you wouldnt be wasting stupid money on stupid mods.

when there's stock bottom ended gsr motors with arp head studs and a better head gasket making 600whp with some top end work and a big turbo...how could one ever justify a swap like this?

Originally Posted by Guess

Ya, garbage into garbage.. just like when you are throwing endless amounts of money into your garbage focus... in the long run, its still a $5000 focus.. that will never get past 15 seconds in the 1/4, and will never outhandle a civic...

Please.. by no means should you get offended by the vehicle you drive.. if your going to say that its "all that you can afford".. because if that were true.. you wouldnt be wasting stupid money on stupid mods.

sorry there king pin 2006 bmw....but yes thats all i could probably afford with my shitty 50k a year that i make by working my ass off.....yes i know its a probably one of the basic models that ford makes but i still got love for it, its fully loaded and got all the options i need......endless money? i never spent more then $1500 on my car...i kept it on the tight budget...so you know the rims are the most expensive mod on my car and they came with new rubber....=$500 all together,it was a good deal....

now u do the math on the crackberry big boy

p.s. focus's are known for their handling, thats why alot of them enter autoX and lapping days
focus is not a 1/4 car.....too be honest after 3 times that i've gone to the drag track i got bored of it......

plust this thread was never about my car first of all, so wtf are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Jimmy

when there's stock bottom ended gsr motors with arp head studs and a better head gasket making 600whp with some top end work and a big turbo...how could one ever justify a swap like this?

exact point.

Originally Posted by NikiterZts

sorry there king pin 2006 bmw....but yes thats i could probably afford with my shitty 50k a year that i make by working my ass off.....yes i know its a probably one of the basic models that ford makes but i still got love for it, its fully loaded and got all the options i need......endless money? i never spent more then $1500 on my car...i kept it on the tight budget...so you know the rims are the most expensive mod on my car and they came with new rubber....=$500 all together,it was a good deal....

now u do the math on the crackberry big boy

p.s. focus's are known for their handling, thats why alot of them enter autoX and lapping days
focus is not a 1/4 car.....too be honest after 3 times that i've gone to the drag track i got bored of it......

plust this thread was never about my car first of all, so wtf are you talking about?

You are telling me that you have not spent more then $1500 on your car? I brought your car into this because you did not seem to understand why I was saying both the car and motor were garbage.

crackberry big boy? Say that to my face..

Originally Posted by Guess

You are telling me that you have not spent more then $1500 on your car? I brought your car into this because you did not seem to understand why I was saying both the car and motor were garbage.

crackberry big boy? Say that to my face..

unless you want me to start adding gas,insuarence,regular maintenance money in, then yea....other then that the car is got basic mods

and sorry don't even try to scare me

lol here we go.

I think the point of the swap was to do it just to do it. To be the only one with it. These are the same people with the 2JZ S2000s. Its just showing what they are able to do. I dont think its for money or for fame or whatever, and I dont think that the modifications necessary would of cost much money. I assume other than custom mounts no more than $1000 would of been spent doing this motor swap.

Its not like the guy with the Civette or the 355 swapped Sunny.

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i strongly agree with you^
srt4 ina civic is pretty crazy and different,even if its a waste of money and so dumb he still pulled sumthing crazy off

Originally Posted by NikiterZts

unless you want me to start adding gas,insuarence,regular maintenance money in, then yea....other then that the car is got basic mods

and sorry don't even try to scare me

we've got a tough guy on our hands here...bahahaha

Originally Posted by Jimmy

when there's stock bottom ended gsr motors with arp head studs and a better head gasket making 600whp with some top end work and a big turbo...how could one ever justify a swap like this?

Originality? Everyone's and there mother has seen a turboed GSR swapped civic.

At least this guys keeping it original, but I would of been more impressed with a K20 turbo swap myself. Oh well, to each there own.

Originally Posted by Jimmy

we've got a tough guy on our hands here...bahahaha

Originally Posted by LudeSRV

Originality? Everyone's and there mother has seen a turboed GSR swapped civic.

At least this guys keeping it original, but I would of been more impressed with a K20 turbo swap myself. Oh well, to each there own.

don't get me wrong originality is cool...but at least originality and cool factor at the same time...do it to be better then what else is out there

but using a powertrain that's potential is far less then what is out there is not impressing me at all...especially with the hassle it must've taken to get it in there

Originally Posted by Guess

How so?

I can't see it being justifiable to put in an engine that is intended for a fairly heavy FWD vehicle into a very light vehicle. Once you add up the total time spent on the project plus costs.. you would be better off swapping a buit B18 into the thing and produce high HP numbers with low torque.. exactly what these light hondas need.

If you showed me a S2000 swap into a 240 or a Supra Swap into a 240 or whatever outragous RWD combination you can think of and I would consider it an achievement.

Name the good a SRT4 motor has the second you have to pay to buy the swap? Potential? Has the same potential other built motors have... Factory Warranty? Thats the reason why people love these motors.. stage 2 and you still have factory warranty.. not on a swap..

Seriously, I would fine it embarrassing to own a vehicle that is not a chrysler that has a chrysler swap in it (Except an old school hemi).

SRT4 a 'fairly heavy' fwd car? I might weigh 400lbs total more than the average eg hatch.. Hardly makes it a tank.

As for high hp/low torque, how is that what a honda *needs*?? With SHORT gearing, yes you need high revving high hp.. But with longer gearing(like the SRT4 tranny has stock), low down torque is just as good.

For a daily driver, torque is what you want. Even for racing, with gearing matched to the powerband it doesn't matter where the engine makes power.

As for warranty, etc.. Regardless of that, its still a solid engine that makes very good power stock, with lots of potential. Mid 11's in an SRT4 with a bigger turbo and tuning sounds like A LOT of fun in a lighter car.

As for stock bottom end GSR's making 600whp, I bet they spent more on headwork and tuning than this swap cost them.