As the previous thread got out of control and was locked, I figured the convo may continue in a new thread that could maybe/possibly stay on topic.

There seemed to be some interest to my suggestion of a "Keep it at the track" under the logo when made into stickers.

Is this something that interests more people, and could possibly promote the club as one oriented towards legal events?

I'm sure there are a bit less used phrases we could come up with other than "Keep it at the track", but everyone really does understand exactly what it means.

-Steve

I love it, I'd run just those stickers on my car lol

Quite a few people in VM street race. Hipocricy sux, leave it off the sticker.

In that thread that got locked, the last thing that was said, brushed on something about a BBQ???

can someone explain further?

read the tread, you'll understand

Originally Posted by Timberland

Quite a few people in VM street race. Hipocricy sux, leave it off the sticker.

We can't control what people do with their cars, its their choice. The point is showing what the club represents, and perhaps keeping ya boi street racers from throwing the sticker on their cars.

In all honesty I won't be putting a sticker on my car until I'm firmly convinced the club I'd be representing has the same ideals as my own. I still think its a good idea to display a motto of an organization... create a culture, thats what a car club is supposed to be about.

-Steve

PS... IF YOU WANT BBQ INFO, START ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT IT, OR DO AS THE MODERATOR SUGGESTED AND R-E-A-D... I VERY SPECIFICALLY ASKED THIS THREAD TO STAY ON TOPIC.

Originally Posted by Timberland

Quite a few people in VM street race. Hipocricy sux, leave it off the sticker.

agreed, I say screw the stickers in general, the club needs to represent, so make bbq's and events happen more

this is a HUGE issue on jco, so many clowns with that sticker... and they all drive like turds.. making jco, look bad. simple as that

this is a well respected club in this community (I would like to think) don't ruin it.

stickers should be just left to the officials, and mature drivers only. (who can at least prove themselves)

^^ so just because im 17 I wouldn't be able to get a sticker your saying? I may be 17, but I beleive I am a very good driver for my age. I want to represent this club aswell.

Originally Posted by Jamie

^^ so just because im 17 I wouldn't be able to get a sticker your saying? I may be 17, but I beleive I am a very good driver for my age. I want to represent this club aswell.

I have seen this guy drive, more responsible than most drivers I know!

Originally Posted by Trance|Ghost

stickers should be just left to the officials, and mature drivers only. (who can at least prove themselves)

In case you missed it, official membership doesn't exist anymore. Everyone is an equal member. If you want a sticker on your car, thats fine. If you don't want a sticker on your car, thats fine too.

As PT said, everyone can be a member, regardless if they have a sticker or not. The sticker doesn't make you a member, you participation at events does.

Reflecting back in what happened 2 years ago:
- Stickers were given out in good faith to everyone who asked for them (FREE OF CHARGE)
- Stickers ended up in hands of people who should not have gotten them. (not because of what they drive, but HOW they drive)
- Officers starting noticing heatbags sporting those stickers and pulling them over.
- An association was made between the club name and heatbags/racers
- Actual Member with the same sticker started to get harrased
- We restricted sticker givaways and memberships.

Everyone keep this in mind, if you are going to put a sticker on your car, keep in mind that by driving like an idiot, being involved in illegal activities, etc, you are not only screwing yourself when you get caught, you are screwing everyone else on here too.

If you are going to act like a moron, leave the stickers at home, remebr you don't need them to be a member.

As for adding something to the LOGO its a good suggestion, except the "Keep it at the track" its super played out.
Again we are not a "racing club", we are an everything club, so having that would only affect part of members, unless we start having "Keep it on the show floor" and other retatrted variations.

We tried having a generic statement before "Drive to Survive", that did not work that well either.

I say keep it simple for now.
Also for the people that don't want the .NET you can cut it out before you put the sticker on.

^^^ exactly my point.


and just so i can get this right.

VM is now just a name not a club?? as it seems everyone is a member. so its not really a team/ club.

do i have this right???

i hope not

VM was a club and the fourms only helped stretch to the public and fellow tuners

Originally Posted by vwguy

I say keep it simple for now.
Also for the people that don't want the .NET you can cut it out before you put the sticker on.

Well put. If anyone needs help handling a pair of scissors, let me know and we can work out a mutually agreeable schedule of scissors training.

Upon completion of training, you will be presented with a "Safe Scissors Operator" certificate suitable for framing.

My car, by default is heat; so I'm going to put the sticker on my tool box.

Originally Posted by 2point2

My car, by default is heat; so I'm going to put the sticker on my tool box.

So what's the deal with your avatar?

And your car isn't that heat. Bodykitted light blue CRX with a big IC in the front pffff...

LOL hes faster than you!

Originally Posted by LudeSRV

So what's the deal with your avatar?

Dicking around with Solidworks. Wanted to learn solidworks for a job I applied for. (interview tomorrow!! )

Originally Posted by vwguy

As for adding something to the LOGO its a good suggestion, except the "Keep it at the track" its super played out.
Again we are not a "racing club", we are an everything club, so having that would only affect part of members, unless we start having "Keep it on the show floor" and other retatrted variations.

We tried having a generic statement before "Drive to Survive", that did not work that well either.

I say keep it simple for now.
Also for the people that don't want the .NET you can cut it out before you put the sticker on.

Valid points, but having a show car may attract attention (which its supposed to do) but racing around/driving irresponsibly is what is illegal.

Like I said at the beginning, its definitely become a cliche, and I for one would like to hear some suggestions if anyone has them.

Keeping it simple for now may be difficult to change later on, especially when the overall change is happening for this year and this would compliment it.

We've yet to hear from Guess to see if hes even onboard with the idea, some input would be nice.

-Steve

Originally Posted by spooned civic

^^^ exactly my point.


and just so i can get this right.

VM is now just a name not a club?? as it seems everyone is a member. so its not really a team/ club.

do i have this right???

i hope not

VM was a club and the fourms only helped stretch to the public and fellow tuners

You don't seem to understand something, this was a club well before official members existed, the official members section caused uneasyness between the non official members, and the club was slowly deteriorating.

This is still a club in every aspect, the only change is that everyone is welcome to be a club member, until their membership is revoked for obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by steved_97ILS

Valid points, but having a show car may attract attention (which its supposed to do) but racing around/driving irresponsibly is what is illegal.

Like I said at the beginning, its definitely become a cliche, and I for one would like to hear some suggestions if anyone has them.

Keeping it simple for now may be difficult to change later on, especially when the overall change is happening for this year and this would compliment it.

We've yet to hear from Guess to see if hes even onboard with the idea, some input would be nice.

-Steve

The logo is there for the sole purpose of showing of the club, I won't add anything underneath it because IMO it just ruins the overall effect of the sticker, we arent a organization that is promoting to keep it on the track, were a car club. Its the sole responsibility of the driver to not act like a heat bag.. and frankly.. everyone at one point or another has driven like a heatbag, and it would be hypocritical of us to patrol the sticker usage as we did in the years before.

Every VM member deserves a sticker no matter how old they are, as long as their not driving like assholes on the streets and giving us a bad rep.