VM's Past and Future - #1 Car Club In Kitchener - Waterloo - Cambridge

**fixitmattman** · 12-20-2007, 11:49 PM

.... or is this place kinda just not the same as it was.

**scradley** · 12-20-2007, 11:56 PM

no your right its turning into a shithole. asap

**NightHawk** · 12-21-2007, 08:15 AM

Has ben for a while now.

**mazdaspeedpower** · 12-21-2007, 08:22 AM

are you new? lol.

**rough** · 12-21-2007, 09:06 AM

how can we make it better?
I'm all for helping give us (realistic) suggestions.

not sure i fyou remember what Tom did but he spent money out of his pocket to get somethin at bingemans and basically no one said they'd show. he was on the right track but no one here supported him in his efforts...

**cwiniarz** · 12-21-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by scradley

no your right its turning into a shithole. asap

been a shithole for a while, but for some reason i still find my self coming back to check what people are up to

**2point2** · 12-21-2007, 12:40 PM

psaclub.net - they need people with at least half a brain, badly.

**Opel_Driver** · 12-21-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 2point2

psaclub.net - they need people with at least half a brain, badly.

no kidding. technical talk hurts my brain on there. alright group though... it would be a great club if people who knew things joined.

**fixitmattman** · 12-21-2007, 03:39 PM

Are you suggesting I have at least half a brain

I still don't know if I want to go all PSA yet. Too bad though, because with all the traffic that left here for there it really is pretty damn dead here now.

The only thing is having half a brain makes some of those threads pretty hard to read sometimes. That and depending who's there I don't want to join and hear the never ending grief for driving a compact domestic like VM used to be at one point.

Maybe I just noticed the decline yesterday a bit more than usual. Hell, when there's only 10 new posts and I'm pretty much half of them, the place must be dying.

**Trance|Ghost** · 12-21-2007, 04:21 PM

first off, its winter.. every forum is dead or full of bitching.

secondly, what is up with all the psa hate? I mean lets get this right, vm is what 5-6 hell 7 years old now? alot of you guys are veterans and know you're stuff etc. psa is less then a year old... and yes its full of the younger crowd, but isnt that how vm started?
hell last I heard some members on here use to attend huge "street racing" events etc, when vm was new.

point is, I'm getting sick of seeing this vm vs psa crap, its ridiculous.. where all car enthusiests on different levels and we should all support each other, stop the hating.

**Opel_Driver** · 12-21-2007, 04:47 PM

derek, we're not hating, we're just telling the truth. with a few exceptions, most people on psa just like cars but don't know much about them.

that's all most people on psa want and that's fine, if it works for them that's great. but some people want to be able to talk in depth about technical topics and right now psa isn't the best place to do that.

don't get me wrong, psa is a good place and i like it, but it's more like a group of friends that like cars, not so much a group of car guys.

that's my opinion anyway, i don't think it's a negative one, take it however you want. with time i'm sure psa will mature.

edit: i don't understand your point about street racing events, what difference does that make? what if it was found out that a group of psa members secretly likes choking hookers while eating babies, does it make them worse at contributing to a forum? no.

**Trance|Ghost** · 12-21-2007, 04:53 PM

hmm, you do make a good point^

I guess I can see what you guys mean, I apoligize.. maybe as we grow older (the club) we will become more technical... I just bought a turbo car, so hopefully I learn alot in the next few years..

as for the street racing comment, I only said that out of aggrivation, because I felt as if everyone hates psa for not really fair reasons..

but like I said, I see you're point man.. you are right, its more of a friends thing.. who love to hold/attend shows I think thats how vm started as well.. I respect any car club/nut.. the only way to learn more things is by people who know more then you right?

**Opel_Driver** · 12-21-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Trance|Ghost

the only way to learn more things is by people who know more then you right?

that or tearing things apart and figuring out how things work, that's how i learned pretty much everything i know, a combination of that and reading (internet/haynes manual).

**fixitmattman** · 12-21-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Trance|Ghost

first off, its winter.. every forum is dead or full of bitching.

secondly, what is up with all the psa hate? I mean lets get this right, vm is what 5-6 hell 7 years old now? alot of you guys are veterans and know you're stuff etc. psa is less then a year old... and yes its full of the younger crowd, but isnt that how vm started?
hell last I heard some members on here use to attend huge "street racing" events etc, when vm was new.

point is, I'm getting sick of seeing this vm vs psa crap, its ridiculous.. where all car enthusiests on different levels and we should all support each other, stop the hating.

This one seems exceptionally less active than is the norm for the winter. even winter on VM.

Seriously, if you thought our posts were 'hating' I really don't know what to say. Every time someone says a hint of criticism of PSA around here you go off the handle. Chill out man. Go blow off some boost in your srt or something.

I don't mind at all helping people out, but what I hate is when you try and offer help and someone who couldn't tell their ass from a hole in the ground argues to death how right something ridiculously wrong is until you just don't care. I'm not claiming to know all, but I'm sure others who have a firm bearing on what the difference between their ass and a hole in the ground is also feel the same way at times.

I'm not big at all into shows and bling, even meets so much anymore. Just the technical discussion here is nonexistent anymore and it's nice to talk about performance.

**White Coupe** · 12-21-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rough

how can we make it better?
I'm all for helping give us (realistic) suggestions.

not sure i fyou remember what Tom did but he spent money out of his pocket to get somethin at bingemans and basically no one said they'd show. he was on the right track but no one here supported him in his efforts...

then he sold it to a somebody out of the scene.... which is how this club got to where it is now.
NOT to somebody in the area and interested in this stuff..................

WOOOOOOO
GO BLACKBERRIES!!!

**White Coupe** · 12-21-2007, 05:54 PM

hahaha
"Oh did I mention I also own www.blackberries DOT com"
hahahahahaahahlksdjfahkjsdhgkjasdhlfkasdjgkasdhkjf hadskfjalksd
quoted you know who!

*edit
blueberry forums... thats what I meant to say.

**sevsev** · 12-21-2007, 06:32 PM

lol

the life and times of vital motion

Car Community Forum, Southern Ontario Based, Vitalmotion.net

Seven Mistakes In One Day

not even a club anymore, just a forum/business

**fixitmattman** · 12-21-2007, 06:43 PM

Very interesting.

**2point2** · 12-21-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trance|Ghost

secondly, what is up with all the psa hate?

This psa vs vm thing that you've created in your head.... is annoying.

**neonSRT** · 12-22-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sevsev

lol

the life and times of vital motion

Car Community Forum, Southern Ontario Based, Vitalmotion.net

Seven Mistakes In One Day

not even a club anymore, just a forum/business

That "Seven Mistakes" post just made my day...

**2gen99GS** · 12-22-2007, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sevsev

lol

the life and times of vital motion

Car Community Forum, Southern Ontario Based, Vitalmotion.net

Seven Mistakes In One Day

not even a club anymore, just a forum/business

intresting post about tom discussing selling the website, that was hilarious. good find, your input please lol

12-20-2007, 11:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
fixitmattman My Neon made me a mechanic Posts: 2,608 Location: Brantford / Thunder Bay Join Date: May 2004 Ride: 00 Neon Fav Mod: Class:	VM's Past and Future .... or is this place kinda just not the same as it was. ------------------ This is where you type a bunch of shit about how awesome your car is. FACT: It's been scientifically proven that the more shit you write in here the less cool your car is. Nine times out of ten the majority of people who talk shit down here don't even have any of the crap they talk about on their car. I drive an 8 year old domestic and barely give two shits about it. I beat the hell out of it and it begs for more, just like your girlfriend. Go ahead, cut me off. I dare ya.

12-20-2007, 11:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
scradley VM Member Posts: 2,867 Location: Kitchener Join Date: Nov 2003 Ride: 1998 VW GOLF Fav Mod: Class: Street	no your right its turning into a shithole. asap ------------------ 98 golf Trunks are for elephants!

12-21-2007, 08:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
NightHawk VM Member Posts: 2,914 Location: Kitchener Join Date: Dec 2003 Ride: 1985 Pontiac Fiero Fav Mod: Lowering springs Class: Street	Has ben for a while now. ------------------ <Kevin> 1995 Chevy Cavalier- RIP??? 2003 Chevy Trailblazer LT EXT- Daily Driver 1985 Pontiac Fiero GT Fastback- New toy

12-21-2007, 08:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
mazdaspeedpower Trippin' Balls Due To Mazda's Speed Posts: 1,084 Location: Kitchener Join Date: Aug 2005 Ride: 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege Fav Mod: Spec Stage 3 Clutch Class: Street	are you new? lol. ------------------ 2003.5 Titanium Grey Mazdaspeed Protege-2.0L 5spd Turbo 1996 Cavalier-2.2L 3psd(AT)

12-21-2007, 09:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
rough Super Moderator Posts: 2,746 Join Date: Jan 2005 Ride: 1976 Datsun 280Z Fav Mod: Class:	how can we make it better? I'm all for helping give us (realistic) suggestions. not sure i fyou remember what Tom did but he spent money out of his pocket to get somethin at bingemans and basically no one said they'd show. he was on the right track but no one here supported him in his efforts... ------------------ Life can change with every breathe, and it can end before the next. Datsun 280z- awaiting LS1 install to be the LSZ of my dreams Mods to come:224/224 cam, valvesprings, hardened pushrods, hugger headers, P&P TB, LS6 intake, loud pipes What you didn't hear me? or you didn't understand?

12-21-2007, 12:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
2point2 VM Member Posts: 6,508 Join Date: Feb 2004 Ride: 1988 Honda CRX Fav Mod: CRXForum Class:	psaclub.net - they need people with at least half a brain, badly. ------------------ 2.2L Turbo CRX - 10.73 @ 137mph - Pump gas, and then drove it home.

12-21-2007, 03:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
fixitmattman My Neon made me a mechanic Posts: 2,608 Location: Brantford / Thunder Bay Join Date: May 2004 Ride: 00 Neon Fav Mod: Class:	Are you suggesting I have at least half a brain I still don't know if I want to go all PSA yet. Too bad though, because with all the traffic that left here for there it really is pretty damn dead here now. The only thing is having half a brain makes some of those threads pretty hard to read sometimes. That and depending who's there I don't want to join and hear the never ending grief for driving a compact domestic like VM used to be at one point. Maybe I just noticed the decline yesterday a bit more than usual. Hell, when there's only 10 new posts and I'm pretty much half of them, the place must be dying. ------------------ This is where you type a bunch of shit about how awesome your car is. FACT: It's been scientifically proven that the more shit you write in here the less cool your car is. Nine times out of ten the majority of people who talk shit down here don't even have any of the crap they talk about on their car. I drive an 8 year old domestic and barely give two shits about it. I beat the hell out of it and it begs for more, just like your girlfriend. Go ahead, cut me off. I dare ya.

12-21-2007, 04:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
Trance\|Ghost VM Member Posts: 950 Location: Kitchener Join Date: Oct 2005 Ride: 1992 Topaz XR5 Fav Mod: its stock. Class:	first off, its winter.. every forum is dead or full of bitching. secondly, what is up with all the psa hate? I mean lets get this right, vm is what 5-6 hell 7 years old now? alot of you guys are veterans and know you're stuff etc. psa is less then a year old... and yes its full of the younger crowd, but isnt that how vm started? hell last I heard some members on here use to attend huge "street racing" events etc, when vm was new. point is, I'm getting sick of seeing this vm vs psa crap, its ridiculous.. where all car enthusiests on different levels and we should all support each other, stop the hating. ------------------ That's not oil leaking! It's sweat, from all that horsepower! _________________ www.psaclub.net Power<>Style<>Autosport

12-21-2007, 04:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Opel_Driver VM Member Posts: 2,751 Location: London & K/W Join Date: Apr 2005 Ride: '95 Civic Sedan Fav Mod: enjoying the stockness. Class: Street	derek, we're not hating, we're just telling the truth. with a few exceptions, most people on psa just like cars but don't know much about them. that's all most people on psa want and that's fine, if it works for them that's great. but some people want to be able to talk in depth about technical topics and right now psa isn't the best place to do that. don't get me wrong, psa is a good place and i like it, but it's more like a group of friends that like cars, not so much a group of car guys. that's my opinion anyway, i don't think it's a negative one, take it however you want. with time i'm sure psa will mature. edit: i don't understand your point about street racing events, what difference does that make? what if it was found out that a group of psa members secretly likes choking hookers while eating babies, does it make them worse at contributing to a forum? no. ------------------ Brendan: Bunch of 240s Some Opels And a Honda

12-21-2007, 04:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Trance\|Ghost VM Member Posts: 950 Location: Kitchener Join Date: Oct 2005 Ride: 1992 Topaz XR5 Fav Mod: its stock. Class:	hmm, you do make a good point^ I guess I can see what you guys mean, I apoligize.. maybe as we grow older (the club) we will become more technical... I just bought a turbo car, so hopefully I learn alot in the next few years.. as for the street racing comment, I only said that out of aggrivation, because I felt as if everyone hates psa for not really fair reasons.. but like I said, I see you're point man.. you are right, its more of a friends thing.. who love to hold/attend shows I think thats how vm started as well.. I respect any car club/nut.. the only way to learn more things is by people who know more then you right? ------------------ That's not oil leaking! It's sweat, from all that horsepower! _________________ www.psaclub.net Power<>Style<>Autosport

12-21-2007, 05:54 PM	#16 (permalink)
White Coupe VM Member Posts: 4,211 Location: Your Girlfriends Bedroom. Join Date: Nov 2003 Ride: 1996, Acura Integra Fav Mod: Air Freshener Class: All Out	hahaha "Oh did I mention I also own www.blackberries DOT com" hahahahahaahahlksdjfahkjsdhgkjasdhlfkasdjgkasdhkjf hadskfjalksd quoted you know who! *edit blueberry forums... thats what I meant to say. ------------------ 96 Tegra Sergei PSA is for Communism and Nazi's.

12-21-2007, 06:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
sevsev VM Member Posts: 4,258 Location: Cambridge Join Date: May 2004 Ride: 2003 Protege5 Fav Mod: train horn Class: Mini Truck	lol the life and times of vital motion Car Community Forum, Southern Ontario Based, Vitalmotion.net Seven Mistakes In One Day not even a club anymore, just a forum/business ------------------ //Andrew \| 03 Mazda Protege5 3:13 Brian Wiebe Photography - Wedding & Portrait Photography

12-21-2007, 06:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
fixitmattman My Neon made me a mechanic Posts: 2,608 Location: Brantford / Thunder Bay Join Date: May 2004 Ride: 00 Neon Fav Mod: Class:	Very interesting. ------------------ This is where you type a bunch of shit about how awesome your car is. FACT: It's been scientifically proven that the more shit you write in here the less cool your car is. Nine times out of ten the majority of people who talk shit down here don't even have any of the crap they talk about on their car. I drive an 8 year old domestic and barely give two shits about it. I beat the hell out of it and it begs for more, just like your girlfriend. Go ahead, cut me off. I dare ya.