Can you get a ticket for having underglow and the bulb is NOT visable?

yes, they are illegal

not unless the bulb is visible, i got a ticket because i was going down a hill and he was driving the other way and saw it .. got a $110 ticket, and after that i got pulled over again not even 10min and showed the cop my ticket... this was a few years ago on my camry but still...

be careful they are more strict now

The bulb cant be visible from the front or the back of the car. They are not allowed to be used on certain roads in certain places like King St in Kitchener or Waterloo and on the 4 series highways.

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Alright thanks guys. I didn't think they were illegal except when they're visable. Does anyone have like a link to a government site? Becuase apparently someone said around my area they're pulling over people with glow, bulbs that aren't visable.

nope they are illegal. also depends what colour it is. i got a ticket last yr for them. plus it depends if the cop is an ass or not.

Wow quite mixed opinions on this. We need someone that's a cop or some link or something... lol. Hard evidence?

The bulb definately can't be visible, and it can't be flashing

This is a very easy question to answer.

Let's review what we have learned from the HTA.

Lights on the back of the car only be red or amber, and white for reverse.

Lights on the front and sides of the car can only be white or amber.

Now you install red, blue, green, plaid, whatever colour of underglows on your car. Even if you hide the bulb or not, the underglows are still emitting light when they're on. You can see that colour from every side of the car. We now have the answer.

Yes, they are illegal and yes you do deserve a ticket for having them. You are breaking the law.

So if you have red underglows, and hide the bulbs, you can still see red light when looking at the front of your car. Illegal.

So if you have blue undeglows, and hide the bulbs, you can still see blue light when looking at any angle of your car. Illegal.

So if you have white underglows, and hide the bulbs, you can still see white light when looking at the back of your car. Illegal.

You get the point.

Wow, that's retarded... i've been dricing with glow for 3 years and never been pulled over for it...

I had them on my car for a while. I had stainless steal brackets covering the bulbs so it was impossible to see them. With doing that I never got pulled over regarding the glow.

My .02 don’t get them. Save your money.

Originally Posted by HellFire96

Wow, that's retarded... i've been dricing with glow for 3 years and never been pulled over for it...

Either a) a cop was too lazy to bother with it b) a cop has never really noticed it c) you've got a horseshoe up your ass

that's because they dont care half the time. I already talked to a cop in person about this when I wanted red underglow. He said exactly what Kace wrote. He said any light other than white under your car is illegal, and even then if it's a driving distraction (up to the officers discretion) then you get a ticket. It's very vague and they're all over the place about it. He said if I had a flashing light, you're gonna get pulled over.

I asked also about interior lights, he said anything is fine as long as it's hidden and doesn't distract people, again, vague. And no flashing in this case either. I told him I just wanted red lights under my dash, he said that's no problem at all.

He said if you REALLY want to do something on the exterior, get white or amber and keep it subtle, but even then, that's his opinion on what he would let go, because another cop may be a hard ass and say it's a distraction. He said BEST bet, dont do it, save the cash.

Can anyone find this in the HTA?

Originally Posted by Kace

Lights on the back of the car only be red or amber, and white for reverse.

Lights on the front and sides of the car can only be white or amber.

Now you install red, blue, green, plaid, whatever colour of underglows on your car. Even if you hide the bulb or not, the underglows are still emitting light when they're on.:

Agree......but there is no law that says what colour you are allowed on the bottom of your car, just the front and back. I'm under the impression that as long as they only light up the road, and you can't see them they're legal....

.....'cept if the cop's being an ass and decides they are a distration to other drivers.

It doesn't matter where the light's coming from. If you can see red light coming from your car when standing at the front of the car, it's illegal.

Anyone have any hard evidence on any of this?... This is a mized opinion.

I thought it was strobbing red ones were illegal, not non-strobbing red ones. Looks like I need to ask a cop or something these questions..

Welcome to the Highway Traffic Act, where nothing is defined in black and white and everything is left up to the Officer's mood that day.

There are a million things in the HTA that we could argue about on here.

i had red ones for a little while and i never drove with them on... once i was in a paking lot with a bunch of friends and had them on while parked, and when i left i was pulled over and told theyre illegal cause theyre red and you could see them from the front etc... i didnt even have them turned on while i was driving and i explained that to the cop that they were just for show and i would only put them on when the car was off and parked (my friends dad was opp and i have cop relatives and always ran things by them when id do them to the car) he said he saw me in the lot with them on and could see that red light was visible from the front and ASSUMED that i would drive with them on, which wasnt the case... so after 15 mins or so he let me go with a 'warning' i guess you could call it
im so glad i dont have that car anymore... i was always being pulled over for bogus things and never once did i get a ticket (well 1 speeding but that was almost 3 years ago now) just a lot of time spent on the side of the road

Kace is right regarding the color of the lights as defined by the HTA and the "distraction to other drivers" issue. However I have been tolf by police that under glow is not illegal unless the light bulbs are visible and/or the light emmited by the bulb is visible at a distance of 150m.
And if one looks at section 62(1) and 62(4) of the HTA its clear that for the 'underglow' to be classed as a 'improper lamp' it must be visible at 150m.
Remember you are not violating the "undgerglow' section of the HTA becuase it does not exist. BUT when the underglow meets the criteria for other sections (ie:color, flashing, visibility) then you are in violation.
Make sense?

62. (1) When on a highway at any time from one-half hour before sunset to one-half hour after sunrise and at any other time when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, persons and vehicles on the highway are not clearly discernible at a distance of 150 metres or less, every motor vehicle other than a motorcycle shall carry three lighted lamps in a conspicuous position, one on each side of the front of the vehicle which shall display a white or amber light only, and one on the rear of the vehicle which shall display a red light only. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (1).

62(4) Any lamp required under subsection (1), (2) or (3) shall, when lighted, be clearly visible at a distance of at least 150 metres from the front or rear, as the case may be. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (4).

Let me add a point to my post above... For you guys who think that the above is you 'get out of jail free card' for the windshield washers lights....sorry... its not keep reading the HTA... sec 62(6).

Strength of lamps

(6) Lamps on the front of a motor vehicle shall be so constructed, located, arranged and adjusted that when lighted as required by subsections (1), (2) and (3) they produce under normal atmospheric conditions and on a level road a driving light sufficient to render clearly discernible to the operator of the motor vehicle any person or vehicle on the highway within a distance of 110 metres ahead of the motor vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (6).

So unless those little windshield washer LEDs can fire out enough light to be seen at 110m (in other words. do the same thing as your head lights) then you are screwed again.

I've had neons on my Mx-3 for man, going on 4 years and I've never been pulled over because of them. Mine are blue. I know about the directional laws as mentioned, which is why my front bulb, which would normally be viewable through the bumper, is covered so it only shines down. As much as I would like a blue neons license plate frame, I don't have one knowing it's illegal. I don't see how neons, only shining downwards onto the ground, is illegal. The lights themselves, when properly done, aren't facing any specific direction, therefore don't apply to any laws regarding the lights, their colors and directions. Cause you can see my blue neons when they reflect off the road, off the car beside me, off the moon and back into the cops eye, would not make it illegal. If they would be illegal, the laws would regard about lights on the vehicle, and not specifiing directions.