Well on my way to work today I got nailed with a yellow (amber) light ticket. I’m 100% at fault and I am not arguing that cop is wrong so please NO FLAMERS giving me more stress than I already am under.

I got 180.00 and 3 points.

I have a speeding ticket last year for 0 points. I didn’t go to court because no point and it was only $50.00. The cop reduced from 25 over limit to 15 and 3 points to 0 points. My insurance renewed and my insurance didn’t go up but went down $400.00 per year.

Now I’m not paying this ticket like the last one. He didn’t’ cut my any favors or reduce the points OR the FINE this time. I asked him wtf I can do about reducing the cost of ticket as I’m a university student on co op work term and have 5000 dollars tuition in January. He said you ran a yellow you have to pay 180.00 bucks and that’s all there is to it. And then he mentioned the 3 options which I know about.

Now I know my last ticket the cop reduced the fine on the spot so I was like whatever I’m late for work and didn’t argue at all about how to reduce it. I did the limit the entire way to work and ended up being late, but my boss didn’t mind as I told them why I was late.

I get into work today and look at the ticket. I looked at the liscene plate the cop wrote on ticket and third letter/number looked odd.. The third letter/number on my plate for real is a B. I looked at the ticket and it appears to be anything BUT a B. I gave the ticket to 3-4 co coworkers. They all said ya that’s a S or 5 or a 3 no way in hell is it a B. But me any my shitty luck can read it as a B or a 3 more of a 3 then a B.
I’m afraid if I go to court they will say I’m wrong and that’s a B and I’m going to get raped.

Now everyone at work is telling me to calm down and it will get thrown out because they saying only if your blind can you read that as not being anything but a B.

Now my luck in life is not so good. What are the chances that he the cop has it written properly on his copy of the ticket? But on mine that letter does not look like a B at all but an S or a 5 or a 3.

Please help. I don’t want to get raped by this ticket with insurance premiums let alone the beating from my parents. I’m really afraid to tell them as I never said anything about my speeding one last year.

Should I just go to court since I have nothing to loose as I wasn’t cut any favors today as in no reductions?

Another question. Anyone have any idea how much my insurance would fly with this ticket? I’m 20 years old with G license for 2 years.

You ran the light. By accident or not, you're still screwed. The only thing I would suggest is to go to the Justice of the Peace and plead your "student" story and you may get a reduced fine. They wont reduce your points.

Don't run lights and pay attention.

the only suggestion I have would be to scan this ticket and post it on here, and just cover any personal information you don't want us to see, that way we can decide if it looks anything like a B. Im sure there are other people on here that will help you out, Good luck bro

ill post a picture at lunch. But ill only post the ticket area where the lissnce plate is and ill blur out the other correct letters to keep it safe...........

I always read posts in any traffic violation's that have been posted here , that if their is incorrect info such as in my case the ticket could be thrown out. Is that not possible in my case at all?

ok.

it CAN be thrown out, or it CAN be amended in court to read 'B' all deends on the JP/Crown at the time.

go make your court date, it will take 6 months AT LEAST...My court date for my Jan. 8th ticket is Nov. 29th.

Then when that day come up, go talk to the crown and ask what they will do about it. Explain your story, blah blah, and if they drop it they drop it, if not, they don't.

Well his ticket will look EXACTLY likes yours because the ticket is drawn up on that paper that runs through onto the sheet behind it so they are 100% identical. So that answers that question. Also if you have no other points then you'll probably be fine with this ticket. Most insurance companies ignore the first ticket where you've accumulated points and won't adjust your rates.

I don't think you have much to worry about here personally..

either way, fight it, and if you have a good driving record, they may reduce the points as well... they can even reduce the charge to "disobeying a street sign" or some bs like that... I know someone who got that charge pleaded down, originally it was running a stop sign.

fight it and see wat the prosecutor says mine got dropped to disobey lane light no points n 50$ go fight it

Last year when i still had my escort I got pulled over in a blitz and got a ticket. There was more than one car there. the cop screwed up my ticket with the plate number from another car. I tried fighting it. Apparently its only if they spell your name wrong..lol I think thats bullshit, but thats what they said to me in court.

John

I would definatley make a court date and fight the ticket. The reality is that most of the time the officer doesnt show up or you usually get the ticket reduced. You dont really have anything to lose by trying to fight it.

Amber light

(15) Every driver approaching a traffic control signal showing a circular amber indication and facing the indication shall stop his or her vehicle if he or she can do so safely, otherwise he or she may proceed with caution. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 144 (15).

IMO I'd play the "I didn't think I could safely stop my car to avoid impeding the intersection or crosswalk so I felt it best to proceed through the intersection with caution" bit.

Unless you're one of those bastards that runs a yellow from like 100ft away, then you deserve the ticket

i can't even remember maybe I was an asshole but pretty sure i wasn't.
i think i might go through points. everything apparently depends on the cop notes.

can't i say that i felt the ass hole behind me was too close and if i slammed brakes he may have hit me and caused more of a problem than me approaching with caution.

all i know is this ticket is good enough to fuck me good and i probably won't be driving after june 2007 after my renewal if it gets caught. As I'm pretty sure last years 15 km over 0 points, and this new one @ 3 points is enough to have me kicked off insurance or have it fly high enough my dad will sell my car cuz its under his name , even though i paid for the car fully, and cut me off driving period. As my dad is just like that.

does anyone here not reccomending going through points. I don't care about 250-300 bux id rather of tried my case with a professional than my self.

Or do i stand a better or equal chance if i go alone ?

Book a first attendance meeting, explain that you feltthere was insufficient stopping time, so u looked both ways and kept on goin with caution. stress the part about being careful

Your ticket wont get dropped for one digit being wrong, if anything the Judge will correct it in court.

Originally Posted by MX3Autozam

Last year when i still had my escort I got pulled over in a blitz and got a ticket. There was more than one car there. the cop screwed up my ticket with the plate number from another car. I tried fighting it. Apparently its only if they spell your name wrong..lol I think thats bullshit, but thats what they said to me in court.

John

^like he says, fatal errors include date, name, signature.. (there may be others)


I would likely try the "poor student" card, and maybe the tailgater card..

Points don't matter........it's still an infraction. You're wasting your $ going through Pointts or whatever......you can get the charge lowered yourself, but you'll need some spare time to attend your court date.

Originally Posted by Avenger

Points don't matter........it's still an infraction. You're wasting your $ going through Pointts or whatever......you can get the charge lowered yourself, but you'll need some spare time to attend your court date.

and a WIN by points standards is a reduction. So they will go in to the first attendence - take 1/2 hour charge you $300 and have your fine reduced to $90. Now you pay $390 (plus I'm sure there's tax on the $300 they charge) and get exactly what you could have done in 1/2 hour yourself.

Go see the Crown (nice guy for the most part) bet you that he drops the charge to something smaller like improper lane change etc. Not only that but when you get up in front of her worship (not honour) she will ask if you need any extra time to pay the fine. You say yes and then she will ask how long you need. Ask for 90 days and you won't have to pay until well after your tuition is due.

Option B - fight the ticket. This will involve 2 visitis to 90 queen st. First visit you will have to tell the crown your intentions, then let the JP hear it too (in the court room) then they will book your real court date - most likely they will note that you need one and you may either get to stand at the wicket outside the courtroom or possibly have something mailed to you.

If you go with option B it sounds like you have a good chance of walking out of there paying exactly $0.

Good luck - and park on Margaret ave - it's a 4 minute walk but at least they're not screwing you for parking.

i had one of those, went and said i didn't feel it was safe to stop and it got dropped.

Originally Posted by pokey1

and a WIN by points standards is a reduction. So they will go in to the first attendence - take 1/2 hour charge you $300 and have your fine reduced to $90. Now you pay $390 (plus I'm sure there's tax on the $300 they charge) and get exactly what you could have done in 1/2 hour yourself.

Go see the Crown (nice guy for the most part) bet you that he drops the charge to something smaller like improper lane change etc. Not only that but when you get up in front of her worship (not honour) she will ask if you need any extra time to pay the fine. You say yes and then she will ask how long you need. Ask for 90 days and you won't have to pay until well after your tuition is due.

Option B - fight the ticket. This will involve 2 visitis to 90 queen st. First visit you will have to tell the crown your intentions, then let the JP hear it too (in the court room) then they will book your real court date - most likely they will note that you need one and you may either get to stand at the wicket outside the courtroom or possibly have something mailed to you.

If you go with option B it sounds like you have a good chance of walking out of there paying exactly $0.

Good luck - and park on Margaret ave - it's a 4 minute walk but at least they're not screwing you for parking.

Reading Option B or as my ticket says OPTION 2 says plead guilty with explanation and NOT DISPUTE THE CHARGE. Is this what you are reccomending that means. Or maybe it will be lesser charge as in price ? not lesser charge as in offense? very confusing.

Option 3 is the one that says to set a court date. And i have to choose this option by going in PERSON = me missing 2 hrs of work because they open later then I start and it will take me about 45 minutes to get to work.
I can sacrifice 2 hours not a problem.


aslo phat_gsr98 your thing getting dropped, did you choose option 3 or option 2? were you actually able to stop or was it grey for you or what if you don't mind me asking? also what did you tell the cop when you got pulled over.

also anyone know if this is MAJOR or a MINOR conviction i went through a couple websites and this violation isn't in either category.

All that I know is that never say anything about it being yellow! Always say that on approach that the light was green, and you felt it was unsafe to stop.

Originally Posted by ids748

Reading Option B or as my ticket says OPTION 2 says plead guilty with explanation and NOT DISPUTE THE CHARGE. Is this what you are reccomending that means. Or maybe it will be lesser charge as in price ? not lesser charge as in offense? very confusing.

Option 3 is the one that says to set a court date. And i have to choose this option by going in PERSON = me missing 2 hrs of work because they open later then I start and it will take me about 45 minutes to get to work.
I can sacrifice 2 hours not a problem.

DO NOT choose option 2. This basically means you're admitting guilt. When you admit guilt, why would the Crown offer anything else?

Option 3 is the way to go. This is the two step process I described above. During the initial meeting with the crown attorney you can ask if he is willing to alter the charge to something different which carries a lighter penalty (improper lane change). I have never experienced them being stuck on the charge and not budge on either charge or the payment amount. He may stick with the charge as presented but ask you to pay a lower fine. If you accept, the court can still (and probably will) give you a longer time to pay (remember to ask).

I went to the court house yesterday and filled in the paper. I choose the trial option.

It said yes or no if you want to challeged the offence with evidence. I said yes.
as if you selected no it had something else said something about accepting the charge.

Did i pick the wrong thing yesterday? My friend who faught a ticket last year was like I picked the wrong thing.

challenging with evidence is that the right or wrong thing?

ask to speak with the crown during a "first attendance meeting". Briing the error to the crowns attention and i believe it will be dropped before the actual trial (the one involving the officer). I believe getting the licence plate wrong is considered a "fatal error", in otherwords its and automatic quash of the ticket.
good luck