I had my radar detector taken away a couple of weeks ago. Its my own fault for getting caught, but I was just wondering if anyone has had luck fighting the ticket and if not, how bad does it look to insurance companies. Is my insurance gonna go up a huge amount?

O man speeding is never good especially lately with the extra cops on the roads.

From my experience. 1 ticket isn't gonan do much or anythign to your rates depending upon your insurance company.

My rates went down 400 per year with 1 conviction on renewal.

However my new ticket of running a yellow light is gonan rape me up the ass. 800 more per year now on reneweal if i get convicted.

I now don't speed run any yellow.

Just drive safer before you get another ticket.

Oh ya take that shit to court no matter what!

^^ maybe read the thread first and reply accordingly instead of random ramblings about speeding tickets which has nothing to do with this thread. Its about a radar detector ticket and not speeding. Learn to read.

Now the reply to Neon2nr:

I've had one of those tickets in the past. There is no sense fighting it for 2 reasons: 1) You will not win, the cop has the detector logged into evidence and any judge will convict you. 2) A radar detector ticket is a non moving violation ticket. Meaning its just a fine, no points and from my experience it will not affect your insurance what so ever.

Wanna start a "radar detector ticket" club???

Did u guys get a speeding ticket at the same time as having your detector confiscated??? I didn't and meanwhile the cop gave me a schpeel about how speeding is unsafe...even though I had never had a speeding ticket before either.

Well I thought he must of got a speeding ticket too.

How the heck do you get pulled over and then get a radar ticket. Unless it was a random spot check and he had it in a spot where the cop saw.

I guess thats what happened.

They can detect the detectors

^ that i did not know.

without machines too

example a. driving down the road, doing say 100. the cop turns on his radar. BAM you hit your brakes and your front end drops... cop walks up to the window "give me the detector or i search your car"..done and done.

Originally Posted by ids748

Well I thought he must of got a speeding ticket too.

How the heck do you get pulled over and then get a radar ticket. Unless it was a random spot check and he had it in a spot where the cop saw.

I guess thats what happened.

Try reading my post again, you'll realize that when I received my radar dectector ticket I wasn't speeding.

example a. driving down the road, doing say 100. the cop turns on his radar. BAM you hit your brakes and your front end drops... cop walks up to the window "give me the detector or i search your car"..done and done.

Their radar detector detector doesn't have to be used with their radar gun. When I was caught, he didn't even have his radar on, therefore I didn't brake and the unit wasn't visable.

no i know. the guy who i was telling just seemed surprised that you could detect them, when really, you don't always need a machine.


just out of curiosity, what happened with that?

how did he ask you for it? did you just give it to him? or did he have to search the car? did he crush it riht in front of you? i've seen cops just say "give it to me" put it under your wheel and tell you to drive away.

^^ the driving over the detector is a major myth. The cops seize the detector in order to use it as evidence against you. When they pull you over they have suspicion of a "radar warning" device present so he'll come up and ask for it. Legally he can search the car but not you or your passengers. Also very few cruisers actually have the spectre detecting devices because they're quite expensive. Its usually OPP cruisers that are equipped with it.

There are very few tricks to not having to hand it over, such as the sealed mail trick, etc. However I think We can agree the best trick is just not to use one here in ontario.

can you not just put it in your glovebox? they cant check your glovebox or trunk if they are locked from what i've been told...

another trick is to buy a shitty one and a good one... if u get pulled over, hand in the shitty one and take the loss... keep the good one and put it in your glovebox, they would never suspect you have two

and i agree, the have saved my dad's ass numberous times!! definately worth the investment if your safe!

Buying a shitty one and a good one is a really good idea

Originally Posted by PlatinumTurbo

^^ the driving over the detector is a major myth. The cops seize the detector in order to use it as evidence against you. When they pull you over they have suspicion of a "radar warning" device present so he'll come up and ask for it. Legally he can search the car but not you or your passengers. Also very few cruisers actually have the spectre detecting devices because they're quite expensive. Its usually OPP cruisers that are equipped with it.

ya i know about the equipment. what i was saying, instead of giving a ticket, they make you run over it. I have seen it done.

yes, i know about the legality too. I'm taking law at university, ahve already completed Police Foundations, and am actually almost finished the recruitment process of the RCMP.

Originally Posted by VW4Life

Buying a shitty one and a good one is a really good idea

I'll go look for ahem my friends ahem if anyone is interested...

Originally Posted by VW4Life

Buying a shitty one and a good one is a really good idea

It won't work. They make u give them your wiring hookup, whether it's a cigarette light plug or whatever, and they test it in their car to make sure.

Which is why I don't believe the "make u run over it" thing. They are required to keep it as evidence.

can you not just put it in your glovebox? they cant check your glovebox or trunk if they are locked from what i've been told...

Not if they have probable cause, which they do since they detected your detector. I think that only works if they just pull u over for a random spot check. If they detect a detector and you don't comply, be prepared to a) have your car torn apart from top to bottom and b) to wait, be harrassed and have the cops give u as much trouble they can.

if you guys get Pas mag, theres a detector in thier that the sell. invisible to police and any future technology that the police may be able to get..... supposed to be "the best" think its made by belltronics, called the STI IIRC, if you get Pas mag there is always a full page add about it....

Kace, the running over thing. its like letting you off on a speeding ticket. they make you run over it, and throw it out, let you off the ticket. if they were charging you, they wouldn't make you run it over.

if they have "reasonable grounds" they can search your car, top to bottom, inside out, for your radar detector.

carbon, they can detect it. they can detect anything. read my previous post. they don't need a machine to catch you, all they need is common sense.

Originally Posted by 500k_93_civic

Kace, the running over thing. its like letting you off on a speeding ticket. they make you run over it, and throw it out, let you off the ticket. if they were charging you, they wouldn't make you run it over.

if they have "reasonable grounds" they can search your car, top to bottom, inside out, for your radar detector.

carbon, they can detect it. they can detect anything. read my previous post. they don't need a machine to catch you, all they need is common sense.

You're incorrect. An experienced driver with a detector won't slam on the brakes. At least I won't, so they can't get me that way. The time I have been busted, is by opp equiped with spectre 2 which detected the detector. Carbon is right, the new Belltronics STI is enclosed in magnesium and it doesn't give out any signals that can be detected by police right now.

Platinum, i agree with you, fully. but like i said, not everyone is an "experienced drive who won't slam on the brakes". and people have gotten caught. I didn't know about the magnesium casing, but like i said before, just because it says "undetectable" means it is only undectable by machine, not by humans.

I'm not arguing with you here, all i'm saying is that a police officer doesn't always need a machine to see that you have a radar detector. And please don't tell me i am incorrect, as i have seen this method work with my very own eyes while on a ridealong with an experienced OPP traffic cop.

Originally Posted by Kace

It won't work. They make u give them your wiring hookup, whether it's a cigarette light plug or whatever, and they test it in their car to make sure.

Which is why I don't believe the "make u run over it" thing. They are required to keep it as evidence.



Not if they have probable cause, which they do since they detected your detector. I think that only works if they just pull u over for a random spot check. If they detect a detector and you don't comply, be prepared to a) have your car torn apart from top to bottom and b) to wait, be harrassed and have the cops give u as much trouble they can.

why wouldnt you have wiring for both?? if u do and give them the shitty one with the wiring why would they suspect that u have a second one?? u still get one that works, just make sure your willing to lose it and then of course like platinum said... don't be an idiot and use it with caution... dont slam on your brakes and be an idiot, just slow down and cross your fingers!