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**Avenger** · 08-07-2004, 07:29 PM

Do I buy a Talon with 280,000 km's on the original engine? Think it'll hold out for a while yet? It passed E-test and drives alright from what I could tell with the short test drive I took.

In the event that the engine failed.........how much to buy and have another one put in? This is the 2.0L DOHC non-turbo engine.

Rob

**slammedbluewagon** · 08-07-2004, 07:39 PM

I wouldn;t take the chance. At that high milage either the tranny or motor is going to go pretty soon. As for a new motor you could probably do one (install yourself) for $600-$800. That is just a guess though but that would probably be what it would cost. My opinion, don't take teh chance.

Ben

**Skyline_Stefan** · 08-07-2004, 07:42 PM

well mileage is obviously pretty high...you have to ask yourself how long you want it for, how the test drive felt, and if you are willing to spend the money needed to get it repaired WHEN it fails..

so therefore i'm thinking if you don't need it for TOO long, then sure go ahead and buy it..

**SITN2LOW TURBO** · 08-07-2004, 08:02 PM

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In the event that the engine failed.........how much to buy and have another one put in? This is the 2.0L DOHC non-turbo engine.

put a neon engine in it.....same shit...

**Avenger** · 08-07-2004, 08:28 PM

Well, I wouldn't have a problem spending $1500 on an engine swap if it came to that........and then it'd be good for several years.

I dunno......I love the car but the km's are high. It's only $850 though.

**SexyCeli** · 08-07-2004, 08:37 PM

what the hell do you need THREE cars for.... you having kids or something?! wtf?!

**scoops** · 08-07-2004, 09:00 PM

i'd be nervous of it, those cars are known to have crankwalk problems an mitsu has been known not to have the longest engine life out there. but on the other hand 850$ is getting you a pretty decent car for the cost if it's in decent shape besides the engine.
it's worth it if you find a turbo engine to swap into it

**Avenger** · 08-07-2004, 09:27 PM

I'm not looking for speed.........I'm just looking for a "sporty" 2-door 5-speed. This car fits the ticket. I MIGHT look for an Avenger as well.

Avenger = slow ass sports car.......it's got everything but a decent engine

**ChippedFire** · 08-07-2004, 10:06 PM

just buy it man....they're easy to drop an engine into....same with tranny's...helped with a couple myself in the past...$850.00 you can't complain at all

**MISNO** · 08-07-2004, 11:05 PM

you could always drop in a used 3.0L V6 Mitsu engine...these are decently torquey, and abundantly available.

**2point2** · 08-07-2004, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenger

Do I buy a Talon with 280,000 km's.

thats where i stopped reading...

**NightRiderWS6** · 08-08-2004, 12:44 AM

Dunno much about those motors.. however one thing I always think of is the rest of the car.. if it's gone 280,000 kms.. think about the bushings throughout the suspension, the springs etc. etc. I'm sure most of that shit can be changed, but do you wanna expend that money? Fuel lines and other misc. shit can also get pretty crusty/worn out after that much time on the road.. Never saw (or paid attention) to if it was hwy kms or not.. but I guess that would alleviate some of the above..

**booSted** · 08-08-2004, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scoops

i'd be nervous of it, those cars are known to have crankwalk problems an mitsu has been known not to have the longest engine life out there. but on the other hand 850$ is getting you a pretty decent car for the cost if it's in decent shape besides the engine.
it's worth it if you find a turbo engine to swap into it

crankwalk is only a factor on the 2g turbos
the engines in the non turbo cars are not 4G63T
they are 420A exact same as the neon engine except flipped the other way
hope that clears it up
and also this is a chrysler engine
so in terms of engine life, think of buying a neon with that many kilometres on it

**A|eks** · 08-08-2004, 08:43 AM

[quote="Avenger"]I'm not looking for speed.........I'm just looking for a "sporty" 2-door 5-speed. quote]

Integra

**slammedbluewagon** · 08-08-2004, 09:34 AM

[quote="AlekSIR"]

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Originally Posted by Avenger

I'm not looking for speed.........I'm just looking for a "sporty" 2-door 5-speed. quote]

Integra

Yeah but they aren't exzactly cheap.

**Avenger** · 08-08-2004, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AlekSIR

Integra

TRUE...............I'd like something a litte better looking than an Integra though. That's still a good suggestion!

**Sharpe** · 08-08-2004, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Avenger

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Originally Posted by AlekSIR

Integra

TRUE...............I'd like something a litte better looking than an Integra though. That's still a good suggestion!

IMO integras are 10x better looking then a 1st gen talon, or even an avenger for that matter. How can you think a 1st gen talon looks good?

**Avenger** · 08-08-2004, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by UberHatch

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Originally Posted by Avenger

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Originally Posted by AlekSIR

Integra

TRUE...............I'd like something a litte better looking than an Integra though. That's still a good suggestion!

IMO integras are 10x better looking then a 1st gen talon, or even an avenger for that matter. How can you think a 1st gen talon looks good?

Integra's are TOO much $$$ PERIOD. If I wanted to spend that much money, I'd buy a Stealth.

**neonjoe** · 08-08-2004, 09:01 PM

[quote="AlekSIR"]

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Originally Posted by Avenger

I'm not looking for speed.........I'm just looking for a "sporty" 2-door 5-speed. quote]

Integra

First gen neon r/t, that was a fun car when i had one

**neonSRT** · 08-09-2004, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gsxtacy

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Originally Posted by scoops

i'd be nervous of it, those cars are known to have crankwalk problems an mitsu has been known not to have the longest engine life out there. but on the other hand 850$ is getting you a pretty decent car for the cost if it's in decent shape besides the engine.
it's worth it if you find a turbo engine to swap into it

crankwalk is only a factor on the 2g turbos
the engines in the non turbo cars are not 4G63T
they are 420A exact same as the neon engine except flipped the other way
hope that clears it up
and also this is a chrysler engine
so in terms of engine life, think of buying a neon with that many kilometres on it

Just a little correction, the 420A is only in non-turbo DSM's from 95 onward, before that they had a 4G63 non turbo.

**booSted** · 08-09-2004, 01:09 AM

^^^^^

that is corrcet but since we were talking about a 95 talon i thought id stick to just informing him on 2g engines

but good info none the less

08-07-2004, 07:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Avenger VM Member Posts: 2,440 Location: Kitchener Ontario Join Date: Mar 2004 Ride: 2002 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Fav Mod: Class:	Advice??? Do I buy a Talon with 280,000 km's on the original engine? Think it'll hold out for a while yet? It passed E-test and drives alright from what I could tell with the short test drive I took. In the event that the engine failed.........how much to buy and have another one put in? This is the 2.0L DOHC non-turbo engine. Rob ------------------ Rob 2006 Honda Civic DX coupe 1.8L 140HP/128ft/lbs - HID's 2002 Intrepid R/T 3.5L HO 244HP/250ft/lbs - Bone Stock 15.5 @ 90MPH

08-07-2004, 07:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
slammedbluewagon VM Member Posts: 7,276 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Join Date: Jul 2004 Ride: 1911 Ford Model T Fav Mod: Class:	I wouldn;t take the chance. At that high milage either the tranny or motor is going to go pretty soon. As for a new motor you could probably do one (install yourself) for $600-$800. That is just a guess though but that would probably be what it would cost. My opinion, don't take teh chance. Ben ------------------ "You can live in your car, but you cant drive your house."

08-07-2004, 07:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Skyline_Stefan VM Member Posts: 3,154 Location: Kitchener Join Date: Jul 2004 Ride: 2002 Subaru WRX Fav Mod: TurboXS UTEC Class: Street	well mileage is obviously pretty high...you have to ask yourself how long you want it for, how the test drive felt, and if you are willing to spend the money needed to get it repaired WHEN it fails.. so therefore i'm thinking if you don't need it for TOO long, then sure go ahead and buy it.. ------------------ 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX TurboXS Utec Full Turbo Back Exhaust Headers AEM CAI STi Goodies

08-07-2004, 08:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Avenger VM Member Posts: 2,440 Location: Kitchener Ontario Join Date: Mar 2004 Ride: 2002 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Fav Mod: Class:	Well, I wouldn't have a problem spending $1500 on an engine swap if it came to that........and then it'd be good for several years. I dunno......I love the car but the km's are high. It's only $850 though. ------------------ Rob 2006 Honda Civic DX coupe 1.8L 140HP/128ft/lbs - HID's 2002 Intrepid R/T 3.5L HO 244HP/250ft/lbs - Bone Stock 15.5 @ 90MPH

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scoops VM Member Posts: 93 Location: london/grand bend Join Date: Aug 2004 Ride: Fav Mod: Class:	i'd be nervous of it, those cars are known to have crankwalk problems an mitsu has been known not to have the longest engine life out there. but on the other hand 850$ is getting you a pretty decent car for the cost if it's in decent shape besides the engine. it's worth it if you find a turbo engine to swap into it

08-07-2004, 09:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
Avenger VM Member Posts: 2,440 Location: Kitchener Ontario Join Date: Mar 2004 Ride: 2002 Chrysler Intrepid R/T Fav Mod: Class:	I'm not looking for speed.........I'm just looking for a "sporty" 2-door 5-speed. This car fits the ticket. I MIGHT look for an Avenger as well. Avenger = slow ass sports car.......it's got everything but a decent engine ------------------ Rob 2006 Honda Civic DX coupe 1.8L 140HP/128ft/lbs - HID's 2002 Intrepid R/T 3.5L HO 244HP/250ft/lbs - Bone Stock 15.5 @ 90MPH

08-07-2004, 10:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
ChippedFire VM Member Posts: 5,044 Location: Cambridge, ON Join Date: Nov 2003 Ride: 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT Fav Mod: Class: Street	just buy it man....they're easy to drop an engine into....same with tranny's...helped with a couple myself in the past...$850.00 you can't complain at all ------------------ T.J. 1998 Pontiac Sunfire GT 1990 Toyota Celica GT

08-07-2004, 11:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
MISNO VM Member Posts: 38 Location: Hamilton, ON Join Date: Feb 2004 Ride: 2003 Nissan Sentra SE-R SPEC-V Fav Mod: Class: Street	you could always drop in a used 3.0L V6 Mitsu engine...these are decently torquey, and abundantly available. ------------------ 2003 Aztec Red Nissan Sentra SE-R SPEC V Mods: CST/OEM charcoal leather interor NISMO floor mats, billet rad cap and oil cap Black powdercoated 17" stock alloys

08-08-2004, 12:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
NightRiderWS6 VM Member Posts: 428 Location: Kitchener Join Date: Aug 2004 Ride: 1998 Trans Am WS6 Fav Mod: Cam Class: Street	Dunno much about those motors.. however one thing I always think of is the rest of the car.. if it's gone 280,000 kms.. think about the bushings throughout the suspension, the springs etc. etc. I'm sure most of that shit can be changed, but do you wanna expend that money? Fuel lines and other misc. shit can also get pretty crusty/worn out after that much time on the road.. Never saw (or paid attention) to if it was hwy kms or not.. but I guess that would alleviate some of the above.. ------------------ 1998 Trans AM WS6 6-Speed - 370 rwhp - 356 rwtq 2006 Toyota Corolla S 5-Speed - 115 whp - 115 wtq - HPTuning Available - 98/99 Camaro/Firebird LS1 - All enthusiasts unite! - Check out KWMuscle.com

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