iLLuZion - where's my money? - #1 Car Club In Kitchener - Waterloo - Cambridge

**2point2** · 01-24-2005, 12:39 AM

Thread: none
Seller: 2point2
Buyer : iLLuZion
Any Problems: fuck yeah.

I did a B16A swap for for this punk a long time ago. He paid me most the money and promised to pay the $230 when he had it - I was doing swaps in my garage at home at the time so I had to get that car out of my garage beofre my parents hit the roof, otherwise the car would have stayed until he paid me in full.

Ok, Because this was going to be a popular show car i went out of my way to do a very clean job with the wiring - i take alot of pride in my motor swaps especially swaps that require above average wiring knoledge or hybrid swaps, i'm sure many members on here have seen my own work first hand...

him and ERP had compeltely hacked up this car wiring and motor swap.. ERP did some very sketchy things like trying to use an OBD1 distributer on an OBD0 car

The engine was haning in the engine bay with threaded rod though the mounts (cheap mounts that didn't line up properly) I corrected many bugs on this car and asked for no extra in return... Again, i was happy to work on this trailer queen of a car because i knew it was going to be a big part of the show scene.

The point is - I worked very hard and DID a very clean swap on his CRX. His excuse NOW is that i didn't finish the job because the engine didn't come with a downpipe (which would have taken 30 min and 4 bolts to complete). Anybody on here knows that putting on a downpipe is a very small part of an engine swap (especially a VTEC engine into an EF) and doesn't justify somebody refusing to pay a sum of money that large.

I am also dissapointed in VM in general but i'll keep those words to myself.

done.

**JDMPanda** · 01-24-2005, 01:41 AM

If your disappointed in vm than address ur concerns wit the admins or mods or whoever u see fit

**scotty01** · 01-24-2005, 02:23 AM

iLLuZion where is my money as well???????????

he doesn't really owe me anything, but if for some reason he starts to feel generous..

**td-civ** · 01-24-2005, 04:29 AM

man that sucks

shit pay up

**2point2** · 01-24-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by td-civ

shit pay up

Asshole wont reply to his PM's.

**smooth** · 01-24-2005, 11:00 AM

ok that's some series BS... i say go rip the motor back out and then ask for payment, then leave him to reinstall it..lol

**slammedbluewagon** · 01-24-2005, 11:28 AM

That sux man. Hopefully he can be man enough to realize that he needs to pay you.

**2point2** · 01-24-2005, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slammedbluewagon

That sux man. Hopefully he can be man enough to realize that he needs to pay you.

well said.

**ProbeonPSI** · 01-24-2005, 12:26 PM

maybe if you'd go about it in a more nice fashion he would be more willing to pay you. now you've started a huge ruckus and he probably doesnt appreciate it, now youre less likely to get paid... smart thinking

**2point2** · 01-24-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by boostaddict

maybe if you'd go about it in a more nice fashion he would be more willing to pay you. now you've started a huge ruckus and he probably doesnt appreciate it, now youre less likely to get paid... smart thinking

Were not talking abou the McDonalds customer service hotline here..

I tried that "more nice fashion" technique for... um.. a COUPLE YEARS.. It doesn't work with free-loading losers I guess?

thanks for trying out.

**slammedbluewagon** · 01-24-2005, 12:42 PM

How long has he been avoiding paying you?

**2point2** · 01-24-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by slammedbluewagon

How long has he been avoiding paying you?

i wasn't exagerating. a couple years. Now i know where to find him online and where he works.. so i'll just keep reminding him until he decides to be a grownup. I've tried being a 'nice guy' about it but it didn't work.

I've confronted him every time i've seen him.. even at a VM meet at burger king (if anyone remembers?). He has no argument about the fact that he owes me money..he just does't pay.

lol.. maybe i'm the reason he isn't a regular user on here?

**slammedbluewagon** · 01-24-2005, 01:02 PM

I can't beleive he has been avoiding you for years. That's brutal.

**KWghost** · 01-24-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by slammedbluewagon

I can't beleive he has been avoiding you for years. That's brutal.

no kidding!
he's gotta pay up!

**vwguy** · 01-24-2005, 01:47 PM

Ok I think iLLuZion got the point this time, no sense on draggin it on.

If you know where he works approach him in person.

As for your dissapoiments with VM.
Please let me know what they are via PM

Thank You

**iLLuZion** · 01-24-2005, 03:16 PM

i have been replying to all ur PM's and i tried calling u, ask ur sister or mom, they said u were at work...

and it wasnt just a downpipe..there was more wiring and and tuning. and shift linkage....

i figured when we talked last 2 years ago, it was over.. i paid u for work done.. and now ur bringing it up.. u know my number u should have called.. or came by my work (u dont know where i work??).

and as for avoiding u, ive seen u at every meet and u havent come up to me and said anything.. i figured if u had a problem, u would have come up to me.

**2point2** · 01-24-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by iLLuZion

i figured

lol.. your BS amuses me.

the last tim ei spoke to you i made it very clear that i wanted the money you owed me - the deal was never finished - dont try and massage words on here to try and get out of the fact that you blunty failed to pay me money that you owe me.

you figured wrong.

**2point2** · 01-24-2005, 03:24 PM

and NO you didn't reply to my last pm.

**iLLuZion** · 01-24-2005, 03:27 PM

the one where u were threating me?

**iLLuZion** · 01-24-2005, 03:35 PM

I know i never paid u, i admit to that.. but those 30min of work were worth $230?

u knew about the tuning. and downpipe and shiftlinkage man, thats why we left it like that, there was a fair chunk of work to be done...

why havent u called me? we could have sorted this out a long ass time ago,
worked out a solution that would both make us happy... everytime u talk to me is threats man, talk to me civil and i will be more then happy to arrange something with you

**KDawgONE** · 01-24-2005, 03:46 PM

I think that it stupid that a sale that occured BEFORE VM even existed is being rated here. No Offence, but, thats old news as ar as im concerned. This sounds more like a rant more than aything and we are not babysitters.

Thread: none
Seller: Sarah next door
Buyer : Me
Any Problems: You bet. Back in 1995 when I was 13, I promised a popsicle to the girl next door (Sarah) in exchange for me being able to taste her cookies. She said, 'Give me half and you can see them. After that, give me the other half and you can do whatever". SO, i give her half of my green popsicle and she drops her Buffalo's. Nice. Shes getting hair. I give her the other half and she tell me to close my eyes. I do it and she drops the other half of the popsicle into my San Jose Shark's coloured Zebaz jiggers, kicks me in the balls, and tells me to cool off cause she not a whore.
That bitch owes me some poon!

(Think I can find her at the Rev on Friday and force her to finish the deal? I hope so....I just found some new Zebaz at the GoodWill! )

**Polska_01** · 01-24-2005, 03:52 PM

KDawgONE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH! so tru
ej i kno that sarah tell her i got the rest of her popsicle lol

**2point2** · 01-24-2005, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLLuZion

I know i never paid u, i admit to that.. but those 30min of work were worth $230?

OMFG

NO. The swap required 30 min more of work to be fully complete - meaning you were to pay me the amount that we agreed to...

NOT 30 min worth of work totaling $230. lol.. massaging words again? nice try.

You act as if I never tried to have a civil conversation with you in the past? After all this time this is the first time i've ever snapped on you until NOW and you act like you weren't expecting it? your one hell of a peice of work.

hows this for civil:

230 - 30min work of work @ $60/h.. = $200.

and i stopped calling you afer you stopped ANSWERING YOUR PHONE.

01-24-2005, 12:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
2point2 VM Member Posts: 6,508 Join Date: Feb 2004 Ride: 1988 Honda CRX Fav Mod: CRXForum Class:	iLLuZion - where's my money? Thread: none Seller: 2point2 Buyer : iLLuZion Any Problems: fuck yeah. I did a B16A swap for for this punk a long time ago. He paid me most the money and promised to pay the $230 when he had it - I was doing swaps in my garage at home at the time so I had to get that car out of my garage beofre my parents hit the roof, otherwise the car would have stayed until he paid me in full. Ok, Because this was going to be a popular show car i went out of my way to do a very clean job with the wiring - i take alot of pride in my motor swaps especially swaps that require above average wiring knoledge or hybrid swaps, i'm sure many members on here have seen my own work first hand... him and ERP had compeltely hacked up this car wiring and motor swap.. ERP did some very sketchy things like trying to use an OBD1 distributer on an OBD0 car The engine was haning in the engine bay with threaded rod though the mounts (cheap mounts that didn't line up properly) I corrected many bugs on this car and asked for no extra in return... Again, i was happy to work on this trailer queen of a car because i knew it was going to be a big part of the show scene. The point is - I worked very hard and DID a very clean swap on his CRX. His excuse NOW is that i didn't finish the job because the engine didn't come with a downpipe (which would have taken 30 min and 4 bolts to complete). Anybody on here knows that putting on a downpipe is a very small part of an engine swap (especially a VTEC engine into an EF) and doesn't justify somebody refusing to pay a sum of money that large. I am also dissapointed in VM in general but i'll keep those words to myself. done. ------------------ 2.2L Turbo CRX - 10.73 @ 137mph - Pump gas, and then drove it home.

01-24-2005, 01:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
JDMPanda VM Member Posts: 1,174 Location: London Join Date: Aug 2004 Ride: Fav Mod: Class:	If your disappointed in vm than address ur concerns wit the admins or mods or whoever u see fit ------------------ \"Yesterday is yesterday, if we try to recapture it we will only lose tomorow\"

01-24-2005, 02:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
scotty01 VM Member Posts: 1,352 Location: Waterford Join Date: Jan 2004 Ride: 2000 Toyota Celica Fav Mod: Custom Paint Class: Show	iLLuZion where is my money as well??????????? he doesn't really owe me anything, but if for some reason he starts to feel generous.. ------------------ 2000 Toyota Celica GT - Slightly modified... hehe 2006 Toyota Matrix XR - Not a bad li'l daily driver My other homes: C7Performance & Matrix Owners

01-24-2005, 04:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
td-civ VM Member Posts: 3,559 Location: boost land Join Date: May 2004 Ride: 92 civic Fav Mod: Class:	man that sucks shit pay up ------------------ there just cars and truck

01-24-2005, 11:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
slammedbluewagon VM Member Posts: 7,276 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Join Date: Jul 2004 Ride: 1911 Ford Model T Fav Mod: Class:	That sux man. Hopefully he can be man enough to realize that he needs to pay you. ------------------ "You can live in your car, but you cant drive your house."

01-24-2005, 11:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
smooth Senior User Posts: 736 Join Date: Apr 2004 Ride: Fav Mod: Class:	ok that's some series BS... i say go rip the motor back out and then ask for payment, then leave him to reinstall it..lol

01-24-2005, 12:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
ProbeonPSI Veteran User Posts: 6,630 Location: London Ontario Canada Join Date: Sep 2004 Ride: Fav Mod: Class:	maybe if you'd go about it in a more nice fashion he would be more willing to pay you. now you've started a huge ruckus and he probably doesnt appreciate it, now youre less likely to get paid... smart thinking

01-24-2005, 12:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
slammedbluewagon VM Member Posts: 7,276 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Join Date: Jul 2004 Ride: 1911 Ford Model T Fav Mod: Class:	How long has he been avoiding paying you? ------------------ "You can live in your car, but you cant drive your house."

01-24-2005, 01:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
slammedbluewagon VM Member Posts: 7,276 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Join Date: Jul 2004 Ride: 1911 Ford Model T Fav Mod: Class:	I can't beleive he has been avoiding you for years. That's brutal. ------------------ "You can live in your car, but you cant drive your house."

01-24-2005, 01:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
vwguy VM Founder & Moderator Posts: 15,577 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Join Date: Nov 2003 Ride: 2001 VW Golf 1.8T Fav Mod: CF Hatch Class: All Out	Ok I think iLLuZion got the point this time, no sense on draggin it on. If you know where he works approach him in person. As for your dissapoiments with VM. Please let me know what they are via PM Thank You ------------------ Nick \| 2001 Golf 1.8T \| www.mygolfiv.com \| www.hpaddicts.com \| Need Cheap Hosting ?? www.WEJhosting.com $50/Year

01-24-2005, 03:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
iLLuZion VM Member Posts: 498 Location: Cambridge Join Date: Jun 2004 Ride: 2006 Dodge Magnum SXT Fav Mod: Air Ride and 22's Class: Mini Truck	i have been replying to all ur PM's and i tried calling u, ask ur sister or mom, they said u were at work... and it wasnt just a downpipe..there was more wiring and and tuning. and shift linkage.... i figured when we talked last 2 years ago, it was over.. i paid u for work done.. and now ur bringing it up.. u know my number u should have called.. or came by my work (u dont know where i work??). and as for avoiding u, ive seen u at every meet and u havent come up to me and said anything.. i figured if u had a problem, u would have come up to me. ------------------

01-24-2005, 03:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
2point2 VM Member Posts: 6,508 Join Date: Feb 2004 Ride: 1988 Honda CRX Fav Mod: CRXForum Class:	and NO you didn't reply to my last pm. ------------------ 2.2L Turbo CRX - 10.73 @ 137mph - Pump gas, and then drove it home.

01-24-2005, 03:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
iLLuZion VM Member Posts: 498 Location: Cambridge Join Date: Jun 2004 Ride: 2006 Dodge Magnum SXT Fav Mod: Air Ride and 22's Class: Mini Truck	the one where u were threating me? ------------------

01-24-2005, 03:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
iLLuZion VM Member Posts: 498 Location: Cambridge Join Date: Jun 2004 Ride: 2006 Dodge Magnum SXT Fav Mod: Air Ride and 22's Class: Mini Truck	I know i never paid u, i admit to that.. but those 30min of work were worth $230? u knew about the tuning. and downpipe and shiftlinkage man, thats why we left it like that, there was a fair chunk of work to be done... why havent u called me? we could have sorted this out a long ass time ago, worked out a solution that would both make us happy... everytime u talk to me is threats man, talk to me civil and i will be more then happy to arrange something with you ------------------

01-24-2005, 03:46 PM	#21 (permalink)
KDawgONE VM Member Posts: 4,793 Location: Windsor, ON Join Date: Nov 2003 Ride: 1995 GMC Jimmy Fav Mod: Class: Mini Truck	I think that it stupid that a sale that occured BEFORE VM even existed is being rated here. No Offence, but, thats old news as ar as im concerned. This sounds more like a rant more than aything and we are not babysitters. Thread: none Seller: Sarah next door Buyer : Me Any Problems: You bet. Back in 1995 when I was 13, I promised a popsicle to the girl next door (Sarah) in exchange for me being able to taste her cookies. She said, 'Give me half and you can see them. After that, give me the other half and you can do whatever". SO, i give her half of my green popsicle and she drops her Buffalo's. Nice. Shes getting hair. I give her the other half and she tell me to close my eyes. I do it and she drops the other half of the popsicle into my San Jose Shark's coloured Zebaz jiggers, kicks me in the balls, and tells me to cool off cause she not a whore. That bitch owes me some poon! (Think I can find her at the Rev on Friday and force her to finish the deal? I hope so....I just found some new Zebaz at the GoodWill! ) ------------------ Kris \| Sales & Leasing Consultant \| Gus Revenberg Pontiac-Buick-GMC-HUMMER \| Windsor, ON \| 519-979-2800 x126 1995 2WD 4-door GMC Jimmy - Envoy-fronted and Caddy-clipp'd!

01-24-2005, 03:52 PM	#22 (permalink)
Polska_01 VM Member Posts: 1,016 Location: Kitchener Join Date: Jan 2005 Ride: 1995 del sol SI Fav Mod: Brembo Brakes Class: Street	KDawgONE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH! so tru ej i kno that sarah tell her i got the rest of her popsicle lol