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Old 05-14-2008, 10:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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got my little turbo

got my small turbo today garrett gt3582r


some of the stuff to take a shit kicking




typer head P&P and the crower valve springs are gone and using skunk2 pro crowers are to soft

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Old 05-15-2008, 06:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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and this is going on a civic? LOL!


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Old 05-15-2008, 09:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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and this is going on a civic? LOL!
you laugh but it will probably make full boost by 5000rpms and rev to 9000 still making full boost. how long does your datsun make full boost for?


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Old 05-15-2008, 09:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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My Datsun is at full boost (20PSI) by 2250rpm and stays there until 6500 (redline).

That's with a .50 A/R T04E....


Waiting until 5000rpm for full boost is useless....why not run a proper size turbo that will make more power earlier and the same up top...

With that turbo...the car will be nothing but a dedicated 1/4 mile race car (aka...useless on the street) or a dyno queen....


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Old 05-15-2008, 01:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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it will work and be fun ill put a video up when all done dont be scared

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Old 05-15-2008, 01:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Quality parts...that's good to see!

Still think the turbo is waay too big...the setup will work...but not as well as it could.

What are you aiming for? HP? 1/4 mile time? Is it still going to be a street car?


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Old 05-15-2008, 01:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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jim u need to get a civic again
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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like 500 550hp
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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well that'll be good for lots of wheel spin...too bad that's all it will do...


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when its all done ill call u out just a lil call out
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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no problem...any time

400whp 400wtq RWD will own 500whp 250wtq FWD any day of the week....


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them fightin words!

I would like to spectate this race, Jim you coming? I want to get owned by the STI!!!


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Old 05-15-2008, 03:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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go look around on evans-tuning.com Rob, b series hondas that make 550whp generally make in the realm of 350wtq...lol and this will be in a car that weighs probably 500-750 pounds less then yours, with the right suspension and the right tire size and type will hook surprisingly well on the street

Easily you'll pull a couple car lengths in 1st and 2nd gear, but in 3rd and 4th, that datsun of yours is going to hear nothing but an open dump tube hissing and vtec screaming...lol ...infront of you that is

people don't realize that fwd platforms can be setup to hook very well on the street, with an 800lb or 1000lb rear spring, traction bars on the front a soft setup in the front, a big, tall, soft sidewalled, sticky tire with the fenders trimmed and a tranny with long enough gears and an lsd, the car would have no problems hooking sub 2.0 60 foots on a drag radial


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them fightin words!

I would like to spectate this race, Jim you coming? I want to get owned by the STI!!!
I'll come but by then i'll probably be in an n/a honda(acura) again...lol


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LOL! Done and done!

I don't doubt the car will be fast...and yes a FWD chassis can be setup to hook...but no while retaining it's streetability. Getting enough wheel under the front of it to handle 550whp will leave you with the turning radius of a bus.

A high 11 sec 1/4 mile time can easily be obtained with 350whp in a 5th gen on slicks. Any more HP than that and faster times are difficult. Traction becomes a huge obstacle as well as drivetrain strength.

No matter what you do with a FWD "street car"...RWD will always have a big advantage.

Not to mention...the Datsun's only 2700lbs...it's not as heavy as people think....and with a 255/50R16 MT ET Street under it and a factory independent rear suspension....well....sub 2.0 60ft's are VERY easy....


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people don't realize that fwd platforms can be setup to hook very well on the street, with an 800lb or 1000lb rear spring, traction bars on the front a soft setup in the front, a big, tall, soft sidewalled, sticky tire with the fenders trimmed and a tranny with long enough gears and an lsd, the car would have no problems hooking sub 2.0 60 foots on a drag radial
That is true... But somehow I don't see such a dedicated 1/4 mile setup going onto any typical street car... With tires like that, it'll turn like a dump truck and with rear springs like that it'll ride like one too. Not to mention how ugly the car will look with cut fenders.


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LOL! Done and done!

I don't doubt the car will be fast...and yes a FWD chassis can be setup to hook...but no while retaining it's streetability. Getting enough wheel under the front of it to handle 550whp will leave you with the turning radius of a bus.

A high 11 sec 1/4 mile time can easily be obtained with 350whp in a 5th gen on slicks. Any more HP than that and faster times are difficult. Traction becomes a huge obstacle as well as drivetrain strength.

No matter what you do with a FWD "street car"...RWD will always have a big advantage.

Not to mention...the Datsun's only 2700lbs...it's not as heavy as people think....and with a 255/50R16 MT ET Street under it and a factory independent rear suspension....well....sub 2.0 60ft's are VERY easy....
sub 2.0 60's may be very easy but 130mph traps in a 2700lb car with 350whp aren't so easy

and in another honda that was built by the same man that's building this one on a car not setup for drag at all just a lowered civic with a slick went 12.0 with under 400whp so with another 100whp at least 11's would be easily attainable

also you need to know that many guys with 550whp b series setups don't give two shits about streetability


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That is true... But somehow I don't see such a dedicated 1/4 mile setup going onto any typical street car... With tires like that, it'll turn like a dump truck and with rear springs like that it'll ride like one too. Not to mention how ugly the car will look with cut fenders.
you'd be surprised how good a civic can look with cut fingers if its done right


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if it coms down to it ill buy new fenders for 100 lol and switch them for track like 5 10mill bolts not a big deal
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Same shit applies for SRT4's, most stage 3 - 350-400+ Hp setups have huge traction issues... and is good for 11's... sometimes


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sub 2.0 60's may be very easy but 130mph traps in a 2700lb car with 350whp aren't so easy

and in another honda that was built by the same man that's building this one on a car not setup for drag at all just a lowered civic with a slick went 12.0 with under 400whp so with another 100whp at least 11's would be easily attainable

also you need to know that many guys with 550whp b series setups don't give two shits about streetability
There's vids of guys with less HP than mine doing 12.5's @ 112mph.....so it wouldn't be much below 130 for an 11 second Z car.

The problem I always have with people who shoot for high HP numbers...is that they think the more they have the faster time they will get. In a perfect world...yes...unfortunately that's not reality. For example...there was a guy on the sentra board with a Spec-V who had full bolt-ons plus a bottle. He ran quicker times on a 35 shot than with the 75 shot. More power doesn't automatically equal faster.

I've seen 400whp civics run 12.0's as well...but adding 100whp more...unless it's set up for 100% drag....I bet it will get roughly the same times...maybe pick up a tenth. The MPH will jump huge though prolly pick up 5-8 there...

FWD street driveable cars are limited to roughly 400whp on a sticky tire IMHO...


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Old 05-16-2008, 09:11 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I think my turbo is a bit bigger but might be the same size, The car is great all around never have a problem with boost. Shouldn't think that will have a problem


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